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Godly Chastening (Punishment) How very few there are that accept even the concept of this! God has dealt with me strongly through rebuke, and it is easily found all throughout His Word. Anyone who claims it is only an “Old Testament” teaching is repeating a Satanic lie, and denying Christ (the Word of God see John 1). Not only does God say He rebukes, but instructs us to also. Mankind was created in God’s image, and we are to be like Him in every way: Jesus Christ actually living among us, becoming an example in every way (Hebrews 2:17)
This scripture is a strong foundation for the principle of Godly chastening. Many dispensationalists write off most of Hebrews, and deny that it applies to present day believers. The Word of God does not say this: and as you will see, Godly chastening is pronounced from the beginning of the Bible to it’s end. In this passage, verses 7 and 8 are of particular interest. We are told that if we endure God’s chastening, He is dealing with us as His children. Yet if we are without it, then “…are ye bastards…” These verses frighten me, with Godly fear. We have a choice whether or not to accept this divine punishment. When illness, misfortune, or disaster occur, it is never even preached as a possibility that we are being dealt with by God! Occasionally this topic will come up for my wife and I with an acquaintance. We do not hear “amen”, but rather “no way.” “God wouldn’t do that.” By denying this principle, they are rejecting God as their Heavenly Father. A continued pattern of this will surely separate a person from God eternally. Any crisis today is not viewed as a spiritual struggle, but something “natural” or “scientific.” More on discerning a crisis in a little bit. God’s Word is my authority, so let me show you how and why this principle is true.
You don’t discipline your children? (Boy, I hope you do!) God does—He actually scourges every son He receives! (Hebrews 12:6)
This last verse are the words of Jesus directly—and He rebuked all but one of those churches in Revelation chapters 2 and 3. Here are more scriptures for your review: Genesis 3; Leviticus 26:28; Exodus 17:7; Joshua 23:15,16; Job 13:10, Psalms 18:5, 76:6; 94:12, 118:18, 119:71, 141:5; Isaiah 26:16, 65:11, 12, 66:4; Jeremiah 2:19, 8:7, 40:2,3; Hosea 10:10, Jonah 2 Now take a look at the vast resource in Proverbs! In I Kings 3:12, God said He gave Solomon more wisdom than any one in history (and the words were God’s!) Proverbs 1:28-31, 3:11,12, 6:23, 10:17, 12:1, 13:18,24, 15:10,32, 17:10, 19:18, 22:15, 27:5, 28:23, 29:15 Now in the New Testament, Matthew 16:23; Mark 8:33, Ephesians 5:11, I Timothy 5:20, Titus 3:10. As you can see, this principle holds fast throughout God’s Word! Yes, the Old Testament has more references, but it is far larger than the New Testament and covers many times more years. So how can you know if you are being chastened/directed by God, or if it is Satan? The answer isn’t always obvious. It is probably as unique as each person. But believer’s in Christ are to walk by faith, so let us go to the Lord in examining our hearts.
Illness is no doubt a very big way God can chasten or direct His people. Yes, I have experienced it quite often. This scripture is the primary one used in relation to communion. Are you admonished to examine yourselves? Are you told it is a main source of illness in the body of Christ? People are often encouraged to be prayed for when sick; but are they being challenged? Does anyone tell them to pray over why they have become ill? Here are some possible reasons: 1) Punishment for sin 2) Dynamic Healing (God’s glory) 3) Redirect our ministry 4) To stay humble 5) To be a witness to medical personnel 6) A move to pray in a certain direction. Ultimately, the entire world is dying because of sin. Apart from sin and Satan, illness and death would not be here. It is not correct to categorically put every disease under the “punishment for sin” label. If you do hard physical work, you are liable to pull a muscle, hurt your back, etc. Chances are it is a natural result of your work. Yet do examine things spiritually—if there is something unique or unexpected about your injury, God may be trying to reach you. He could be trying to show you something. John chapter 9 is a wonderful story about the healing of a blind man. In verses 1, 2 and 3 we find:
Clearly God had a plan for this lifelong blind man! Sin punishment was not the issue. Now let’s read John 5:14
When I am trying to find out, there are some scriptures I use to rely on. Hopefully they can help you, too.
If there is much confusion, or hectic decision-making called for, it isn’t the Lord. When you need time to confirm a spirit-led move, you will have it.
I have personally relied on this verse for over three decades. God never fails!
This is a kind of spiritual “fruit” examining method. The first two …”is first pure, then peaceable,”… are usually all I need. It shouldn’t be hard to tell if motives and methods are pure. Peace naturally follows!
This scripture lines up with the adjective “Peaceable” in the previous passage. Walk closely with Jesus every day, doing your best to study and follow God’s Word. Commit your life to Him daily (Luke 9:23), and you will be guided by the Holy Spirit from within.
No matter what the issue, no matter how big or small, follow the directions here. As Christ’s disciples, He is our life source and strength. Doing this, you will often find that surprising peace in the most trying of situations! Two more things are very important. First, if possible, ask other believers to pray for you. Prayer strength is greatly multiplied when two or more unite for the same purpose. (Matthew 18:19,20) Secondly, but most importantly, follow the Word of God. You can often find direct applications from the Word. Any guidance you receive must also not violate God’s Word. Growing in the Lord is a lifelong process. God is faithful and patient with us right up to the end! …”for he hat said, I will never leave thee nor forsake thee. So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me.” Hebrews 13:5b & 6 WARNING: To avoid falling away, return to the pure Word of God; which is the King James Bible. Revised translations are not small word alterations meant to bring clarity! Major doctrinal changes have occurred, which will bring doubt and destroy your faith. To follow these new “versions” of the truth, is to build your spiritual house upon sand, and become as the ones reflected in Matthew 7:21-23. Please use this entire passage, Matthew 7:21-27. Satan means to deceive you into sincerely following his alternate “truth.” You are really being set up to fall, and serve the antichrist. Pray and seek God diligently in this matter; for time is short. See also our Bible Version section and the section on Eternal Security. With Charity from Christ, Andy
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